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	<title>Comments on: FPGA + USB 3.0: Cypress EZ-USB FX3 or XillyUSB?</title>
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		<title>By: eli</title>
		<link>https://billauer.se/blog/2020/11/fpga-cypress-fx3-xillyusb/comment-page-1/#comment-1584</link>
		<dc:creator>eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2022 11:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Arty-7 board is based upon an Artix-7 FPGA with a CSG324 package, which exposes no Gigabit transceivers (GTPs) at all.
So no, it&#039;s not a candidate for XillyUSB.

Regardless, that breakout board looks like a disaster for the SuperSpeed wires. If it&#039;s supposed to work, the handling of the signal needs to be more gentle than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Arty-7 board is based upon an Artix-7 FPGA with a CSG324 package, which exposes no Gigabit transceivers (GTPs) at all.<br />
So no, it&#8217;s not a candidate for XillyUSB.</p>
<p>Regardless, that breakout board looks like a disaster for the SuperSpeed wires. If it&#8217;s supposed to work, the handling of the signal needs to be more gentle than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dresch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dresch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2022 11:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any chance the interface would work with:
https://www.xilinx.com/products/boards-and-kits/arty.html
At Mouser for $130
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Digilent/410-319?qs=7f4GHlBDYyWx9PqDtlnXMw%3D%3D&amp;mgh=1
A USB 3 connector could be easily wired up with a break out board... something like:
https://www.amazon.com/Type-Male-Plug-Breakout-Board/dp/B01MRK0REP/ref=pd_lpo_2?pd_rd_i=B01MRK0REP&amp;psc=1
(There are many different types. Cutting and hacking a USB3 cable is another option I have done many times.)
This would certainly be an inexpensive way to popularize your IP. Probably not perfect differential routing but maybe close enough...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any chance the interface would work with:<br />
<a href="https://www.xilinx.com/products/boards-and-kits/arty.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.xilinx.com/products/boards-and-kits/arty.html</a><br />
At Mouser for $130<br />
<a href="https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Digilent/410-319?qs=7f4GHlBDYyWx9PqDtlnXMw%3D%3D&#038;mgh=1" rel="nofollow">https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Digilent/410-319?qs=7f4GHlBDYyWx9PqDtlnXMw%3D%3D&#038;mgh=1</a><br />
A USB 3 connector could be easily wired up with a break out board&#8230; something like:<br />
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Type-Male-Plug-Breakout-Board/dp/B01MRK0REP/ref=pd_lpo_2?pd_rd_i=B01MRK0REP&#038;psc=1" rel="nofollow">https://www.amazon.com/Type-Male-Plug-Breakout-Board/dp/B01MRK0REP/ref=pd_lpo_2?pd_rd_i=B01MRK0REP&#038;psc=1</a><br />
(There are many different types. Cutting and hacking a USB3 cable is another option I have done many times.)<br />
This would certainly be an inexpensive way to popularize your IP. Probably not perfect differential routing but maybe close enough&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: eli</title>
		<link>https://billauer.se/blog/2020/11/fpga-cypress-fx3-xillyusb/comment-page-1/#comment-1556</link>
		<dc:creator>eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2021 18:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth to be said, I wasn&#039;t aware of those FTDI devices. Having taken a look, it appears like the arguments above apply to these devices as well. Minus the extra processor, which the FTDI devices don&#039;t have. But I would definitely suggest looking at the errata pages for the FTDI devices. Even though the bugs are resolved in revision B, it&#039;s quite amazing that revision A was released with so trivial bugs.

As for the low-cost FPGA, it an Artix 35T, but the exact device doesn&#039;t matter as long as the design fits and the constraints are met. So there&#039;s a chance for even XC7A12T to suffice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth to be said, I wasn&#8217;t aware of those FTDI devices. Having taken a look, it appears like the arguments above apply to these devices as well. Minus the extra processor, which the FTDI devices don&#8217;t have. But I would definitely suggest looking at the errata pages for the FTDI devices. Even though the bugs are resolved in revision B, it&#8217;s quite amazing that revision A was released with so trivial bugs.</p>
<p>As for the low-cost FPGA, it an Artix 35T, but the exact device doesn&#8217;t matter as long as the design fits and the constraints are met. So there&#8217;s a chance for even XC7A12T to suffice.</p>
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		<title>By: Myron</title>
		<link>https://billauer.se/blog/2020/11/fpga-cypress-fx3-xillyusb/comment-page-1/#comment-1555</link>
		<dc:creator>Myron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2021 17:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what is the smallest/lowest cost FPGA you have tried with the XillyUSB?</description>
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		<title>By: Myron</title>
		<link>https://billauer.se/blog/2020/11/fpga-cypress-fx3-xillyusb/comment-page-1/#comment-1554</link>
		<dc:creator>Myron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2021 17:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you done a similar comparison with the FTDI601?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you done a similar comparison with the FTDI601?</p>
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